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If you are thinking about making your Thai girlfriend your Thai wife then here are some interesting facts for you to consider.
I have been writing a guest column called “Angella Talks” for my friends Steve and Golf at Thailand Musings and recently I began a post about divorce between Thai women and Farang men and so I thought I would add some information about that subject here as well because I feel it is an important and interesting topic.
You know I talk a lot about what is needed to make an intercultural relationship work, it is one of my passions because I see so many Farang men who have a Thai girlfriend and then decide to marry her and they end up in all sorts of problems due to a lack of understanding of cultures. This is from both sides and is largely what this website is about because it makes me sad when I hear the horror stories about Thai girlfriends and Thai wives and their Farang husbands.
For example recently I read about 2 stories of Farang trying to commit suicide because of their Thai wife leaving them, one was a Swedish man and one was an Australian man and both of these incidents happened in Thailand.
I also found out some interesting statistics that show marriages between Thai and Farang are rising at about 10% every year and have been for the past 10 or 15 years in fact. This is positive news I think, even though the statistics also show that about 6% of divorces are intercultural marriages.
The statistics for divorce worldwide are quite shocking really with the US at nearly 50% divorce rate for all marriages. Thailand at this stage is down the list at around 6% but………we have to be careful because this statistic is only for registered marriages and many Thai marriages are not registered at a district office…something I will talk more about in future post.
As I have said before I believe the divorce rates between Thai and Farang can be helped by having a better understanding between our cultures and taking more preventative approaches, something which I really hope this website and my service can help with.
So remember if you are considering having a Thai wife then try to get a good understanding first of how the cultural difference will affect the relationship, keep coming to this website for more information and tips and celebrate your differences.
One of the most beautiful festivals that takes place in Thailand is the one for Loy Krathong.
The Loy Krathong Festival is celebrated on the full moon of the 12th month according to the Thai Lunar Calendar. For Western this means in November.It is held at the end of the year because Thai people believe that floating a raft on the river is to honor and pay respect to the Goddess of Water and to apologize to the Goddess for the bad things we have done to the river during the past year.
What is Loy Krathong ?The word loy means to float, and a krathong is a banana leaf cup. People place a candle and incense sticks in their krathongs and then float them on a local river or pond. As they push away their krathong, they ask for forgiveness in polluting the waterways and also for good luck in the coming months.
‘Many Thai believe that floating a raft will bring good luck’
Where did the idea for Loy Krathong come from?
The origins of LoyKrathong are stated to be in Sukhothai, but recently scholars have argued that it is in fact an invention from the Bangkok period. According to the writings of H.M. King Rama IV in 1863, the originally Brahmanical festival was adapted by Buddhists in Thailand as a ceremony to honour the original Buddha, Siddhartha Guatama
There are often also beauty contests that accompany the Loy Krathong festival known as “Noppamas Queen Contests”. According to legend, Noppamas was a consort of the Sukothai king Loethai (14th century) and she was the first to float a decorated raft.
This is a step by step process for a Thai marriage for an Australian in Thailand.
If you are Australian and wish to marry your Thai Girlfriend in Thailand this is a step by step process. The process may be similar for other nationalities such as American and English and Canadian but you will need to check with your own Embassies first.
This step by spet process for a Thai marriage is between an Australian man and a Thai woman who have both been divorced so it is a little more complicated but worth knowing. Obviously if you have not been divorced the process will be somewhat simpler.
Step #1 – The Australian Embassy
You will both need a copy of your divorce certificates to prove you are able to marry again. You will need a certified copy of this also which you get get done at the Embassy.
Go to the Australian Embassy in 37 South Sathorn Road, Bangkok – Telephone: 02 344 6300. You will need your Australian passport to get access. You will have to leave your bag at the front entrance for security reasons so take any documents with you. and also take a pen!!
You will need to fill in a Statutory Declaration form stating you are able to marry as well as various other information. You will need to state your Thai fiancee’s ID and/or passport number on this form also.
The form requires you to state your annual income, although they will not check this you need to think ahead because what you put down here will be recorded and may come up in the future if/when you are applying for a Visa for your Thai wife to come to Australia and you need to provide Financial sponsor support. Anything over $35K a year is ok for Thai authorities to allow the marriage but may not be enough to support her in AU. However it is best to be honest so just do that.
Once you have filled out the form correctly you can submit it along with your fee of approx 1500THB (approx $45AU)
They will give documents back to you stamped with Australian Embassy seals.
Then you are done with this step and can go to step #2.
The whole process took us about an hour in the Embassy as there were only a few other people there doing the same and it was a week day. Just make sure you have all your information with you. They will give you all the next things you need to do on a form at the Embassy which is also in Thai.
Step #2 – The Translation process
So now you will need to get your documents translated into Thai, there are plenty of places to do this but they must be certified translations.
As you will also need to submit your applications to the Thai authorities to approve everything so you can marry the best place to go is Legalization Division Department of Consular Affairs 123 Chaengwattana Road, Laksi, Bangkok 10210Tel: (66-2) 2575 1056-61. The website is: Ministry of Foreign Affairs look at the Consular information section or for the Thai version go to this website: Thai Consular . This building has translation services and is also where you submit your application to marry a Thai national. It has a cafe and some shops downstairs so even though you may have to wait around for a few hours ( which you will!!) there are places to at least relax a little (if that’s possible when dealing with Thai Government!!)
Basically you get your documents translated from one of the many service people hanging around on the ground floor touting Farang (Westerners) for business…yes they know what you are there for mate!! If you are divorced this will cost between 1100 and 1500THB ($35 to $50AU), get your Thai girlfriend/fiance to negotiate this. It is more expensive because Australian divorce certificates are from the court and more complicated for them to translate correctly.
It will take an hour or two to get your translated documents back so I suggest grab yourself a book and a cup of coffee and kick back for a while, no use in getting stressed over waiting as it will take as long as it will take and will depend how busy they are.
Once you have your translated documents back you can then go and submit them upstairs to the Thai Consular for them to approve your application of marriage to a Thai National. You will need to grab a ticket and wait until your number is called up. Now if this is your first marriage you can pay for an express service, just ask to see the supervisor and they can sometimes make this happen for you on the same day. But, if you are divorced then sadly no express service!!!
Once you submit your application documents (Australian and translated Thai versions) you will pay your fee of approx 1400THB (apprx $40AU) and will be told it should take 2 days to process.
Come back in 2 days time and again be prepared to wait around a bit. You should be able to go to the desk first and check to see if your documents are ready, if not they will tell you when they will be ready…usually they call names out over the PA system so it is best to wait in that area so you don’t miss it, however if you have time then you can go and come back around the time they say it will be ready, just go back to the desk and ask again (you will have a receipt they will have given you before so just show this each time and for God’s sake do not lose it!!)
A little tip….make sure if you don’t get called up by name you keep checking at the desk. We made this mistake waiting to be called when the documents were actually there…No offence to Thai’s but some government workers are not like ours in Australia, they don’t care too much if you get left behind..so be proactive.
Hopefully you will get your documents back without any problems but CAUTION!! It is nt unlikely that there may be some mistakes with the translation and if this happens you will have to get them fixed up by the translators…oh yes!! this happened to us so beware..this can put serious delays on your schedule if you do not plan for this.
Hopefully everything is fine and now you have your approval from the Thai Consular to marry with a Thai National, you have all the documents to prove it so you can move on to Step #3 and go get married!!
Ok, now if you plan to do this all on the same day then I advise you go early as you will be waiting around for a while.
Step #3 – The Marriage at District Office
Well done, now you have all the things you need to go and get married which for it to be legal in Australia will need to be registered at a District office in Bangkok. Again there are a number of District offices available to do this. One office is the Payathai District Office, pic below.
Now you are ready for the third and final step in this process, to actually get married. This step will require your Thai girlfriend/fiance to have all her documents to prove she is able to marry. She will need divorce certificate if applicable, passport, ID, house book..in fact she will most likely know anyway but just make sure she has everything she can think of!! Better too much than not enough.
You will need to fill out various forms, actually I should re phraze that because your thai girlfriend/fiance will need to fill them ut because everything needs to be in Thai. You will just need your passport and divorce certificates and docs that you got from the Consular office , you know, the ones you had to wait 5 hours for!!!
Basically this process will be done mostly between the Official and your Thai girlfriend/fiance so again sit back and relax because the whole process will take about 1 hour to do.
Lastly you will need 2 witnesses to your marriage, preferably someone you know and who is a Thai National. You will need to ask them to attend and sign some documents also and one of them will need to translate some documents for you.
A little tip – Most district offices will close off accepting marriages at 3pm or 3.30pm and most offices actually close at 4pm so allow plenty of time.
Once all the forms are signed, you have them witnessed the Officer will process everything and then write you a marriage certificate ( 2copies in fact). There is a small fee of about 50Thai baht (approx $1.50AU) and that’s it…now you are married to a Thai National and your Thai girlfriend is now your Thai Wife.
So now you guys are married you can arrange your celebrations, honeymoon and get your visa application lodged if you intend to live in Australia, but that’s a whole other story!!!
So what is all this fuss about Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney’s wife and Thailand?
Well first off I must say I am already planning to be in Thailand next year in June..lol. I have my ticket all lined up..why!! well because I am English of course ( even though I have lived in Australia for 20 years and am in fact an australian Citizien I was born in england and lived there until 24yrs old) and so if the reports coming out of the UK are true and the England soccer team (or Football team is what i should say because only aussies and americans call it soccer..in England it is quite clearly Football!!) are flagged to come to Bangkok and play the Thailand National football team then I for one will be here to see it.
But amidst all that there seems to be a bigger story about the exploits of a certain Mr Wayne Rooney, who happens to be one of my favorite players actually and plays for the team I follow being Manchester United, and the fact that he will not be able to restrain himself from the charms and desires of a temporary Thai Girlfriend. Yes apparently, according to Rooney’s wife Colleen, Bangkok is the sex capital of the world and it will be like jumping into the frying pan for young Wayne.
Why all the fuss you ask?
Because young Wayne Rooney has recently been exposed as paying for sex with girls in England and so with Bangkok being (apparently) the world centre for pay for sex how will he be able to control himself.
lol, well if all this can be believed and let’s face it how much of the English tabloid press can you really believe, then it does seem there there could be a little misconception about Thailand going on. First of course you have to understand that the English love a scandal, and most of those reading and believing this sort of story won’t have a clue what Thailand is really like! But it is ashame that a country as beautfil as the former Siam can be tagged so easily with one label, which in fact is not true and also when the same can be said of London, Paris, New york and many other major capitals of the world who all have a seedy underbelly to their exisitence.
The UK press love scandal and so do it’s readers, who are very often easily seduced by the negative side of fame and fortune commonly known as “Gossip”.
The real story is though that apparently the England Football squad will arrive in June of next year to play Thailand as part of England’s bid to host the world Cup in….. It also co-incides with the Thai King’s birthday and so the English FA ( Englands football/soccer governing body) has penciled in a trip to the former Siam.
Now you have remember here there are two ways to look at this…There is the tabloid view and the professional football view.
The Football view is that these players, many of whom are among the best in the world and play for some of the top teams in europe are in fact professional footballers and will be representing their country. They will have instructions to behave appropriately and be a good example. Drinking will certainly not be allowed and the prospect of being caught engaging in less than appropriate behavior can result in a loss of place on the England squad, which as every top level footballer will tell you is their ultimate dream goal and not something they would want to throw away.
Then there is the tabloid view of things and that is that these players all in their early and mid twenties, some of whom like the likes of Wayne Rooney are always out for a good time and will run a mock in Bangkok like being on some “Jolly boys ” outing. Indeed it is true that a few of the other players have been involved in some so called scandalous behavior in England..of course always involving women!! So is there any hope that they won’t be able to control their urges and be on a mission to seek out as many Thai bar girls as possible whilst in Bangkok?
Well it is not hard to see which one will sell newspapaers and magazines and be great TV news is it? How hard would it be to get a picture of Wayne rooney or John Terry chatting innocently to some Thai woman and then being able to concoct a whole sordid story around it? Just watch what happens when the England squad arrives and spot the 100′s of photographers (paparazzi!!) buzzing around then like flies, and you can bet there will some of those flies who will be hiding in bushes, flower pots and tuk tks trying to get a juicy shot of one of the players engaged in something naughty!!..ho hum..such is the English way!!
“The sad part of this is that Thailand and Bangkok will be the injured innocent party with their beautiful culture and country tarnished by misconceptions and manipulations fuelled by tabloid greed and English ignorance”
So there you have it…the perspective of an Englishman who spends much time in Thailand.